45HL has repeatedly said thay have no intent to release something bigger than 15 HDDs for the prosumer market. You would need to engage the enterprise side for that. If you can’t go with bigger drives your options would seem to be:
Get a quote from 45Drives on a Q30. See if they’ll quote you a price for just the chassis. It’ll be expensive, but you’ve defined your needs.
Look for a used Q30/S45/XL60 on eBay. These come up occasionally and I think there are currently 2 or 3 listed. You have to be careful about the generation though depending on your use case.
Get a 24 or 36 drive used Supermicro chassis off of eBay. It’ll be noisy.
Look into external JBODs like ones from NetApp, again likely off of eBay
Look into building this external shelf project someone posted on YouTube; A Disk Shelf Project
Look into buying a second HL15 chassis-only and setting it up as a JBOD like I did for a while when I was creating a backup server; HL15 Tinman Simple JBOD Expansion
Finally, you might want to analyze your usage pattern, Do you really need 360TB+ all online in the same box? You could probably just buy a second HL15 and partition your workload across the two. For example, I have my personal media on one, and my professional stuff on the other. With an external JBOD you have to be a bit careful to not corrupt your ZFS pool(s).
I had not seen 45HL say they have no intent to release anything bigger than 15 HDDs for the prosumer market, so will take that on board.
I did get a quotation from 45Drives for a Q30 chassis back in 2024, which was within budget. However, having never built my own server before, I asked them if the parts I planned on using would work for an Unraid Jellyfin setup. I was told that if I wanted consultation advice from one of the experts on their team it would cost around $1,850, so I gave up on that idea.
Since then I have looked on ebay but never found a second hand 30 or 45 bay unit. Perhaps the ones you mention being available now don’t show up for me as I would want shipping to Asia.
I had hoped to keep everything on one server, but perhaps the answer is to split my media into TV and Films and put each on a separate HL15. I will have to look into this further.
I would certainly like to use another 45D or 45HL chassis. My HL15 is fantastic!
If you haven’t built a server before the questions wouldn’t really be around the software, it would be around power and data for the 30 drives, I’d probably have them include the PSU. I think the internals of your HL15 would go in a Q30 if you have an additional PCIe slot available..You’d likely need a second HBA, or a SAS expader, to connect the second set of 15 drives.
Asking a one-off seller in the US to ship to Asia is probably a stretch, so yes, you are likely filtering listings, or eBay is. I’m not saying a lot come up, but every few months or so there is a 45Drives/Storinator unit listed. Currently there is a Q30 with some drives that seems way overpriced, often they are S45 or XL60s.
Your power bill would be a bit higher running two motherboards/CPUs instead of just one.
If it was me, and;
I was unsure about building in a Q30 chassis
Did not want to purchase a fully built Q30
Had Unraid as my use case
I think I would look at buying one of the new X15 Unraid systems, setting that up as my main system and then either making the HL15 v1 the system for less frequently used media, or turning it into a disk shelf for the X15 as I did in the project above. If Jellyfin is your main gateway, I think if you had two full systems the fact that some of the media is on one box and some on the other should be transparent. You should either be able to point to multiple network locations from Jellyfin config, or set up NFS or SMB shares to access the other media from the one a single Jellyfin instance is running on.
Thank you so much for your detailed reply. I really do appreciate you taking the time to share your wisdom and experience.
That 60 bay chassis is seriously tempting, and would certainly give me enough headroom (!) - but I will have a think about your suggestion to get one of the X15 Unraid systems and set it up to share work with HL15 v1
The big bonus for me with the X15 approach is that it comes with an i7, so any transcoding works out of the box, whereas the XL60 leaves me completely baffled about how to spec it out!
I think Unraid has a limit of 30 drives for the parity array (unless you’re LTT), so if one of the core requirements is to continue using Unraid, I think looking at chassis with more than 30 drives is probably something you aren’t going to be able to utilize.
In the past 45drives has been willing to sell the Q30 case with PSU and internal wiring for the hard drives. I’ve actually purchased two Q30s that way in the years before the HL15.
These are among the easiest cases I’ve ever built in. The slots are all there for the drives with the wiring harnesses for power and data set, along with an appropriately sized PSU. You put in your motherboard and hook everything up. I recently replaced a Rosewill case with an HL15 2.0 because I hated working in the Rosewill and the HL15, while much more expensive, was so much better to work in, swap drives, etc.
I’d just email 45drives and see if they’ll sell you a Q30 without the motherboard and CPU if that’s what you want. I would be sure to get the internal wiring for all the drives and I’d recommend getting the PSU, too. They may say yes. Or no. But it can’t hurt to ask.
The unraid array has a max of 28 data drives and 2 parity drives for a total of 30 drives. Which if you buy the lifetime license it’s for all 30 array and like 1000+ drives in pools.
So if you buy the lower end license it wouldn’t support all 15 drives in hl15 anyways. So you either under utilize the hl15 with less drives or under utilize the license with 15 drives.
There are other competitors and options besides Supermicro ewaste as well. There is even an HL-15 clone, but 14 3.5 drive slots and 2 Sata ssd slots. But I don’t feel it’s ok for me to name them here. It is a shame the q30 comes at a price like 4-6x the hl15 cost when I was quoted.