HL8 - Impressions and Feedback

After migrating my old NAS hardware to the HL8, I wanted to share some feedback on the case.

Overall, I love the case itself. I had been in the market for quite a while looking for a better case, but nothing fit the bill until I saw the HL8. And so far, I have not been disappointed. Please know that this feedback is intended to help make the case better; consider it constructive criticism.

I’m coming from the Silverstone DS380 running Unraid. My biggest issue with that case was the cooling of the hard drives. During parity operations, the HDDs would overheat, and I have lost a few drives, presumably due to the overheating. In the end, I disabled parity checks to save my hard drives.

Hardware:

  • Motherboard: Asus P10S-I
  • Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1275 v6
  • Memory: Crucial Standard 32GB DDR4 DIMM 2400 MHz (2x16GB) (CT2K16G4DFD824A)
  • HDD:
    • 1 x 6TB WD Pro/Plus
    • 5 x 10TB WD Pro/Plus
    • 1 x 10TB Seagate Ironwolf
  • SSD:
    • 2 x 1TB WD Red (Cache Array)
  • RAID Controller: Asus PIKE II 3008-8i PCI Express 3.0 12Gbit/s
  • CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i

HL8 Feedback - Room For Improvement:

  • Flex ATX Guru 500w Power Supply: Overall, this seems like a fine power supply, except for the noise. It’s much louder than anything else in my system at idle. It seems to be mostly the fan, but as this sits in my office while I work, it’s borderline unbearable. I really wish the case was slightly taller and would support SFX Power Supplies. I was previously running a Corsair SF450 in my DS380, which supports SFX power supplies, and it was near silent at idle, so this is a big change for me.
  • CPU Cooler Height: The CPU cooling is not as good as the DS380. I would say it’s adequate, but my CPU does run warmer in this case. I really wanted to use the Noctua NH-L9x65, but with the SSD brackets installed, it’s just a bit too tall. I wish the SSDs could be mounted elsewhere, leaving much more room for CPU cooling. Maybe adding more height to the case to support an SFX power supply would allow for mounting SSDs next to the power supply instead of to the left of the HDD cage.
  • Power Button: As posted in other topics, the power button leaves a lot to be desired. My button was delivered with the solder joint broken, which rendered it useless, but that happens, and 45Drives was quick to send me a replacement, all the way to The Netherlands. My main issues are:
    • Power LED Combined into Single Connector: My motherboard has a pin between the + and - terminals, but the PLED connector on the power switch is a single connector. Most cases I’ve seen have the PLED +/- connectors as independent connections for this purpose (someone please correct me if I’m wrong). It’s not the end of the world; I just didn’t connect the PLED, as the button is on the back of the case where you can’t see it.
    • Cheaper Plastic Housing: Pops out of the hole quite easily. Others have super glued their power switch in place as the cables push against the button when you close the case, causing the power button to pop out. The button uses a friction/clipping system vs. a nut and thread, which would have ensured the button stays in place.
    • Non-Standard Hole Size: All power switches are either 12mm, 16mm, 19mm, or 22mm. The hole size on the HL8 is 15.875mm. The issues stated above are exacerbated by the inability to replace the button with your own. Instead of allowing me to buy my own high-quality metal power button with thread and nut, usable PLED cables, for €10 off of Amazon, I had to pay import fees on a replacement power button of lower quality of the same amount, €10.

To reiterate, I absolutely love this case; it’s nearly perfect for its use case. I’m even fine with the higher price. I’ll be in the market for a FlexATX power supply that’s actually quiet (although I haven’t had any luck so far). I’m going to attempt to find another spot for the SSDs so I can get a bigger CPU cooler installed (I don’t want to overheat the SSDs either). And I may attempt to make the power switch hole size slightly bigger with a reamer in order to install my own switch.

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Hi @kingsleyadam,

Thank you for your wonderful review and your awesome feedback, we really appreciate when we get such feedback from our customers, which helps us make our products better and more likable by the community.

I will forward this to our R&D team for further considerations.

Thank you, again for your time and support !

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A quick follow-up on my system. I swapped out the power-supply with the Silverstone FX600 Platinum power supply and it makes a huge difference.

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/power-supplies/FX600Platinum/

Now with all the disks spun-down the server is barely audible in my office. This is a huge win for me.

I thought I’d share in case others have the same. I’d recommend buying the case without the power supply and using your own.

Also, removing the existing power supply was a true pain. I’m not sure if this can be made easier (maybe the backside can open like the front) but this took way longer than I expected. But in the end I managed, just with a bit of patience.

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Hi there,

noise wise I have a similar issue with the HL8. Currently I am trying to figure out what the loudest fan of the bunch is. If I understood you correctly the power supply is the culprit.
And if I am not using a ssd bracket the NL-L9x65 should fit, correct?
I currently have the Prebuild and burned in HL8 with a Ryzen 7 5700G.

Before you buy a new power supply, you may want to unplug the 40mm Noctua 1xNF-A4X10 to see if that helps. This fan can run up to 4500 RPM and, with my HL8, has a more noticeable higher pitch sound profile at anything above 3000 RPM. I adjusted fan curves on my custom build HL8 to keep it under 3000 unless the system was under crazy load. I also found that the cooling it provided in my setup is very minimal so unplugging for some testing should be just fine.

Ultimately, the overall power load will be the biggest determining factor on the amount of noise coming from the PSU fan. They usually run at a low RPM and ramp as you approach the max wattage. Going to a more efficient (i.e. less heat) Platinum PSU may be enough to help even at 500 watts, but also stepping up from 500W to 600W gives you more head room. All that can help the PSU need less cooling which means the ran runs slower at the same actual power usage for a quieter experience. That said, it’ll definitely get louder again upon approaching the max wattage.

Also, do you have the acrylic front? If you do, check out my post below on a modification needed to the PSU cables to support the rear Noctua fans.

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Under normal load the power supply is definitely the loudest fan/component.

The NL-L9x65 should fit without the SSD bracket, after running my NAS for a few months my processor runs between 40-50 degrees celsius. At times the CPU fan will ramp up when some CPU intensive task kicks in, but in general it’s near silent when idle. I wish I could fit a larger cooler just to bring the temps down a bit, I am running a Xeon® CPU E3-1275 v6 which has a 73w TDP so the 5700G may run cooler. I’d probably see how your temps fluctuate before replacing the cooler.