HL15 all flash sounds like a bad idea

Hello guys,

I wanted to setup an HL15 with 15x SATA SSD.
But i saw a video of techno tim : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGSaj5TYUB0 (8:15) saying that the backplane is “limited” to 2GB/s… So basically the SSD speed is up to 500MB/s so with 15x i will saturate the backplane pretty soon…
Am I missing something or it is right ?
Because if it’s right it’s probably better to put HDD with some nvme caching… Same perf for less money…
Thanks for your help

This might be a better video to use as reference. Unless I’m misunderstanding something, I don’t think the backplane will saturate at 2GB/s. Each drive should get SATA or SAS line speed with a dedicated lane directly back to the HBA or controller.

In fact, what better way to use my Friday off than to do a quick test on my HL15 running TrueNAS Scale. :grinning: I have two pools: Z2 8 wide of mechanical hard drives and 2 VDEV Mirror of SSD’s. I was able to push 3GiB/s across those two pools with using fio read test.

                                            capacity     operations     bandwidth 
pool                                      alloc   free   read  write   read  write
----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
Vault15                                   4.16T  54.1T  1.58K      0  1.24G      0
  raidz2-0                                4.16T  54.1T  1.58K      0  1.24G      0
    3c5b14e8-c94b-4424-99e2-e92d693d3831      -      -    192      0   155M      0
    502f6f6c-c754-4834-8cb5-f2cc49583b3c      -      -    219      0   176M      0
    33f5799e-9b4b-40c7-bdc8-841c20e1c19c      -      -    234      0   180M      0
    baa07f3d-af76-4a6a-8543-fa7c89350842      -      -    175      0   141M      0
    4ec7fe6b-6b97-49f7-a641-d27b0a3db26f      -      -    225      0   172M      0
    f4fdf9d5-aa43-4b0e-a978-a89a471d37ef      -      -    233      0   176M      0
    b226c455-084c-4dd7-bb75-2ac5af537fa2      -      -    166      0   136M      0
    c6a7ad8a-c83b-467b-8463-ad88528bf50f      -      -    167      0   137M      0
logs                                          -      -      -      -      -      -
  mirror-4                                 552K  93.0G      0      0      0      0
    a8fc9875-d5f8-4942-a6cd-21bde2cd61dc      -      -      0      0      0      0
    95d3c5e6-3173-4243-b156-3c8474386d5a      -      -      0      0      0      0
----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
Vault15-SSD                               1.26T  6.44T  12.0K      0  1.50G      0
  mirror-0                                 644G  3.00T  6.19K      0   793M      0
    aa3ed5ee-3b05-4eda-91e0-56ee7c249d09      -      -  3.04K      0   389M      0
    03602ffa-fc83-407f-8d57-de1fd76a041b      -      -  3.16K      0   404M      0
  mirror-1                                 646G  2.99T  5.82K      0   745M      0
    2a409eed-71ae-441c-849e-4f7a88e7d421      -      -  2.90K      0   371M      0
    62ec60a3-0fbd-428d-886e-22209668009e      -      -  2.92K      0   374M      0
special                                       -      -      -      -      -      -
  mirror-2                                3.01G   461G      0      0      0      0
    7754e1bf-de35-49a7-afb2-821dbb93cf1b      -      -      0      0      0      0
    f7489130-78de-42f3-8fcd-d89ae71f4960      -      -      0      0      0      0
----------------------------------------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----```
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I’d say the 2GB/second number is in reference to over the network peak performance of the standard full build HL15. Here’s the explanation a little lower in the main page that @technotim is showing.

Thank you so much crystal clear !
So my config will definetely provide more speed :smiley:
Just wanted to be sure that i will not be limited by the backplane.

Again thanks a lot @rymandle05 for spending time on it !