I was browsing the 45homelab shop and came across the Workstation case. I was wondering if 45homelab has any plans to release a workstation case that supports ATX or EATX motherboards, since the current model seems quite limited in that regard.
I was also wondering about one, but I think your best option from 45Drives is the new deep HL-15 coming out. I was going to order a second HL15 a year ago for a workstation when they redesigned the original workstation case. if i took the drive cage out the EATX would have fit but no support for the extended section since no standoffs there.
It would be great to have a workstation case that supports a true workstation motherboard (ATX/EATX), multiple workstation GPUs, and front intake options for either 3x 120mm or 2x 140mm fans with filters—ideally in a 16–17" size.
Building such a case would likely take less than a day of work, especially since it could be easily derived from the HL15 design.
What form factor of storage (3.5"/2.5"/EDSFF) and how many bays would you want? A typical suggestion seems to be to halve the backplane area allowing for long PCIE cards (GPUs) on the left and drives on the right, either 8-9 3.5" bays or some other combination of storage in that equivalent area.
I was considering a standard workstation case ~15-17" max—nothing too fancy. Maybe just support for 300 mm GPU and a typical layout, but built using their high-end steel.
The current workstation offer from 45H is a mini ITX that is very restrictive from all points of view, it is challenging to call it a workstation solution.
For me, I would love to see 45 Homelabs do a larger GPU Workstation case. Why? Because there already are plenty of other Case companies (ex: Sliger, Silverstone, Lian Li, etc,) making above average-ish Workstation cases. That part of the market is already reasonably well served.
I think the better option would be to create a really great Mega Workstation case at the higher end of the DIY Rackmount Market because this part of the market has next to 0 great DIY options AND because this is the part of the market that is starting to quickly growing thanks to the explosion of new on prem workloads (AI, graphics, scientific) as well as Cloud workloads reverse migrating out of the cloud so that they are back on prem once again, etc.
What might that look like…? Why, I’m glad you asked…
Mega GPU Workstation Case
Target Market(s)
AI, Graphics, and maybe even hardcore gamers who want more than 1 GPU.
Form Factor = 5U - 8U
PCI Slots
it should have 12x - 17x PCIe Slots so that we can cram this full of 4+ dual or triple slot GPUs, AI Accelerators, PCI Cards, etc.
It’s fine if some of them have to be served via PCIe Bifurcation and Riser Cables.
– That is pretty much a no brainer given that most high-end Workstation Motherboards top out around 7x PCIe slots anyway.
Storage
TBH, I don’t think this case has to be a mega storage case like the HL15. I think the focus should instead to just do a really, really great GPU case.
Although, to be fair, if you do a really, really great GPU case as a base, then you could easily do 2 variants of that:
– Variant #1 - just a pureplay GPU Workstation case
– Variant #2 - then a larger variant that is the same design plus say another 2U or so that adds a row of storage on top of it. (ex: Silverstone RM61).
What Cases would I draw inspiration from?
45 Homelabs HL15 v2.0 - “The Beast”
– This will be a strong base for the team to start with and then work out from
Silverstone Alta D1
– While this isn’t a Rackmount case, and both of the cases above would need to be, I think the modularity of it is excellent.
– There has to be a way to do something like that on the Homelabs lineup before Silverstone inevitably brings that same thinking to their own Rackmount cases. And to be fair, you can already see early signs of them starting to do that via the Silverstone RM45
Silverstone RM600
– This basic design of the RM600 could be married with the standard design of the HL15 that is very airflow oriented
– this could be made extremely modular where you could easily swap out bays for extra PSUs, carriers for extra PCIe Slots, etc.
– I actually think this case could even be made very large to the point of it being a 7U to 8U case. That way, you could have a whole dedicated chamber for the GPUs, AI Accelerators, PCI Cards, etc. That would really, really differentiate this case extremely well from something like say a Silverstone RM51, RM52, RM61, RM600, etc.
OneChassis - OCG9800-10H4-L
– While this case is beyond what most people would want, this is a great case to reference if you wanted to go really mega with it.
– This case can take up to 10x triple slot Nvidia 4090s and is 9U.
– While I think 9U is a bit much for what we’re talking about above, I still think this case provides more ideas on how you can play with 2 chambers (Host vs. PCI cards)
I tend to disagree with the following claim: ‘Because there already are plenty of other Case companies (ex: Sliger, Silverstone, Lian Li, etc.) making above-average workstation cases.’
On the market right now, you can easily find better-value storage cases with decent quality. Does this mean we don’t need an HL15? Of course not.
Just a few examples of better value for storage:
Rackable - 12 Bay: materials: steel - has backplane - less than $200: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006180007957.html
Rackable - 12 Bay: materials: steel and aluminum - has backplane - less than $200: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/12-disks-Nas-Case-Support-360_1601211099242.html?spm=a2700.details.you_may_like.2.80f52058H9MtKT
Rackable - 24 Bay: materials: steel and aluminum - has backplane - less than $400: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/24-drive-nas-case-rackmount-support_1601393728689.html?spm=a2700.details.you_may_like.3.16b729c4IWyU6U
Tower - 12 Bay: materials: steel and aluminum - has backplane - less than $100: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/12-drive-tower-case-with-multiple_1601403592169.html?spm=a2700.details.you_may_like.3.2a76163cJkh7p1
Having these solutions on the market, does it mean the HL15 is pointless? I don’t think so.
I own Sliger cases, including a Cerberus X. After using the Cerberus X (which is by no means a flawless case; it has so many problems I don’t even want to start talking about them), I tried some other solutions considered premium. However, I just can’t go back. The standard solutions on the market are simply of such low quality; the materials are too weak and soft.
My point is that the HL15 is not the only solution for its target market. The same would go for a workstation case built by 45 Homelabs. What I am certain about is that a workstation case with reasonable dimensions, built out of premium steel, will target a customer base considerably larger than solutions that are not highly requested. Price is also key.